Thursday, May 22, 2008

Marcelo's Legend

Marcelo's bike:
With numerous first place finishes under his belt Marcelo should be off to the worlds next month and hopefully he'll do pretty well.
Thanks to his dad and mechanic Hernando we've really been able to dial in the prototype and all future Legend riders will benefit from his hard work.

Currently at 17.4kg / 38.28lbs its not as light as the Socom [yet] but the next 2 protos that we're working on right now and should have completed in the next week will see a reduction. further significant weightWe've shaved material from the lower link, it will come sans paint and further machining inside the "canoe" will really drop it down more.

We found out that giving a bike to a rider the day he needs to raceAfter the first race where Marcelo won the Pan American championship isn't always the best thing to do. Its actually amazing he won as the spring rate was way to strong so he was barely using up any of the travel. The brakes weren't dialled and neither was the suspension so basically when the frame got back into the shop it was completely torn down and even every pivot was removed. In fact even now Hernando is pulling the bike completely apart, what seems like every week and checking over ever detail of the bike.
Soon we'll have another 2 produced as there were alot of changes that were made and then after that we'll start on the 50.
It has been longer then expected to get this bike off the ground and trust me I've been under a tremendous amount of pressure to push this into the market but I've always said and will keep saying that it will take as much time as it needs so that we do it right and that it is one of the fastest DH race bikes.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

What's the status on the 2 protos? Who will be testing these the 2nd generation protos?

Keith Scott said...

The protos are done, we are doing a few checks and they will be shipped out soon.

I will be getting one to test and evaluate. and the other one will be going to one of our team riders.

Anonymous said...

The Legend has caused allot of hype and anticipation, but the production delays and missed deadlines have replaced anticipation and excitement with disappointment and leave me questioning Banshee’s ability to put out a 1st class DH bike. There is a difference between product development and testing and dragging your feet, and to me, Banshee has dropped the ball on what could have been something special.

Keith Scott said...

We have had deayls on the legend, but mainly due to the fact that we had to make adjustments to the pivots etc to get them working. trust me we have been pushing this bike through as hard as we can. Good things come to those who wait. we could have run production and shipped them out by now, but the bikes would have had some issues. We are not the kind of company who wants to make a quick buck at our customers expense. I know of alot of frames that have been rushed out, and I have seen pictures of a lot of them snapping, or heard stories about problems. I would rather get it right first time, than rush it out to satisfy some hype.

At the end of the day we want to keep our customers happy by providing a great product. I'm not going to ship a half finished product.

Anonymous said...

Keith thanks for not running and hiding from a tough question. I guess we share a mutual frustration as I ride a Sythe and would like to upgrade to a Legend as soon a possible (I want to stay in the banshee family and support Cdn bike companies). Your blog says that that the second batch were finished on June 17th, it’s 3 weeks later into the biking season with no apparent progress. How long does it take to adjust tolerances etc. Maybe I just do not have an appreciation for the engineering process. In any event, I’ll just wait, but not too long, okay Keith!

Keith Scott said...

Trust me, my frustration levels have been going through the roof the last few weeks. I've been finding it very hard to gt the information that I need for the factory. but it is starting to trickle through now.

the process takes time as it results in making some new parts and modifying other parts.

It really shouldn't be long now. I'm with you to say that they should have been ready and being tested before now.

We are doing everything we can to ensure that the issues are resolved ASAP.

thanks,
Keith

Anonymous said...

Please keep us updated. How many team riders does Banshee have? The only riders that I ever see mentioned are the "M" boys from Columbia.

Keith Scott said...

Oh we have quite a few all over the globe. that either race for us directly, or through a team thats sponsored by us.

Anonymous said...

We have all read about the Legend’s production delays, but is Banshee still planning on making 50 prototypes to field test this year before going into final production? The DH season in Canada and northern USA is almost half over and we have not even seen the release of the new and improved and very limited (2 copies) of the Legend yet. Getting this bike into your 2009 line-up is going to be tight based on the Legend’s short but storied history. What’s the status of the Legend and its immediate future plans?

Keith Scott said...

The 2 prototype legends have been ready for over 3 weeks now. there where a few issues with them in terms of tollerances as we were trying a different axle setup. they are being adressed and one frame is being wear tested on a machine.

The 50 legends will still be produced. Infact last friday the order went thought to start soucing all the material for them, so the process is underway.

I have been assured by the factory that there will be one frame from the production pushed through quickly by the end of july for a top racer that is yet to be announced. The rest of the production should be ready some time in august and will be shipped out ASAP.

The delays have been behond frustrating for both myself and Jay. We have been working hard for months to speed the process up, however the majority of the delays have been caused by factors that are outwith our control. All we can do is suggest way to speed things up and press for the correct outcome. sometimes this has an effect, sometimes it does not. but trust me when I say that we are pushing hard, and have been for over 6 months.

Anonymous said...

Do you think the Legend will be in your 2009 lineup, or, are we looking at 2010 for retail production? Also, what rear shock are you using with the Legend?

Keith Scott said...

A lot of that depends on how the preproduction frames work out, and how many changes have to be made. The plan is to try and have them in shops by summer 09, but we will see...

Anonymous said...

Hey Keith, how did the two new protos turn out? Have they been test ridden yet? Any more revisions to be done before you start on the next 50?

Keith Scott said...

There were a few olerance issues with the last 2 protos, but they have been resolved now and what we have learned from that we have applied to the producion bikes. also I am slackening the head angle by 0.5deg and making a few other small changes...

Anonymous said...

Het Keith, any update on the Legend?

Keith Scott said...

the 50 started production a few weeks ago, and should be ready to ship in about 1 months time. There have been quite a few improvements made for these frames.